Short Sale Report
| Lender | Time To Acknowledge | Time To Approve | Commissions | Full Release Available | Lender Cooperation | User Rating & Comments | |
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| Bank of America | 1st 2nd |
5 days or less 5 days or less |
60+/- days 60+/- days |
5% 5% |
tbd tbd |
NA |
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1sts - Short Sale file handling runs about the industry average of 60 days +/-. Normally not flexible when homeowner hardship is unique. Operates very much like the big bank they are - cumbersome policies that are slow to change. |
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| Chase | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
60+ days 60+ days |
5% 5% |
yes tough |
NA |
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1sts - Chase has been pretty good to work with, but sure do move at a slow pace much of the time. Let's hope that Chase decides to start moving faster, otherwise, with the acquisition of WaMu, we could see the slowest moving financial institution on the planet. |
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| Citi Mortgage | 1st 2nd |
5 days + 5 days + |
60 days 60 days |
5% 5% |
yes tough |
NA |
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1sts - Citi is pretty reasonable on 1sts, once you figure out who to talk to. If you get a good contact at Citi, save the number. We have success at times when we direct a file to a negotiator we have had success with previously. |
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| Countrywide | 1st 2nd |
5 days or less 5 days or less |
60-75 days 60-75 days |
5% to 6% 5% to 6% |
yes most times |
NA |
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Note: Bank of America has acquired Countrywide, but their behavior on Short Sale files continues to be unique and dissimilar. 1sts - Too many files. From the beginning you could feel CW working to improve service levels, the problem was simply too large from the get go. Policy changes at improving processing efficiency have left us feeling like the target is constantly moving. The "triage" program, designed to cull out offers not worthy of consideration has ended up disqualifying many good offers. CW does deserve credit for their efforts, including their willingness to be fair with junior lien holders early in the Short Sale cycle. Update: The infamous paragraph number 10. Someone thought it would be a good idea (I'm betting someone who crossed the isle early from BofA) to include a clause in their approval letter that forces every heads up title/escrow person to say... STOP! There are to be no transfers of the property within 30 days of the closing of this transaction. Escrow instructions must contain a clause that if such a transaction takes place then the title/escrow company must notify (Countrywide). The clause makes the title/escrow provider responsible for tracking the property, and potentially liable for problems that could come about if there is a subsequent transfer. They will take it out if you fight - like anybody needed another reason to fight on a short sale transaction. |
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| Downey Savings | 1st 2nd |
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NA |
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Note: On December 22nd Downey Savings was acquired by US Bancorp. US Bank is an super regional bank with very little exposure to the mortgage default problem. It remains top be seen how they will put their stamp on Downey asset management operations. Will keep you informed as the situation develops |
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| First Franklin | 1st 2nd |
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NA |
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In nearly all cases you will run into Franklin Credit as a junior lien holder. We find them to be very difficult to work with. Their focus is entirely on collection, in many cases without consideration for either the circumstances of the borrower, or the borrower's rights. We have had particular difficulty in working with Franklin Credit on transactions in which the borrower has had the debt discharged through bankruptcy. They seem to have a 'we make our own rules' attitude. |
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| First Horizon | 1st 2nd |
under 3 days under 3 days |
45-60 days 45-60 days |
5% 5% |
usually usually |
NA |
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First Horizon usually has a negotiator assigned within 15 days and a preliminary response within 45 days. We have, however, had a few experiences with First Horizon that have involved more time and effort to get action on a file. Sometimes, and this happens with a few lenders, it just seems that occasional files get turned over to negotiators who sit in rooms with no windows, and have no interest in pushing files forward. |
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| Greenpoint | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
60 days 60 days |
5% 5% |
negotiable negotiable |
NA |
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As of December 1st, all Greenpoint servicing will be transfered to Countrywide. Many Short Sale files have already been moved. You will be using the same loan number, and Countrywide will pick files up mid-stream. It is best, however, if you prepare your Short Sale clients for a small delay during the transition period If you want to get through to a Greenpoint negotiator, call before 7:00am pacific time - and call Monday through Wednesday. Otherwise, prepare yourself for frustration. Simply don't have the manpower to handle their file load. Hold times are very long, sometimes over an hour. And, don't expect a return call....ever. |
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| HSBC | 1st 2nd |
over 5 days over 5 days |
60+ days 60+ days |
5% 5% |
tough tough |
NA |
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1sts - You can usually get someone to talk to. Experiences seem to be uneven - some o.k., many not so o.k. Not fast movers, budget over two months for an approval.
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| Litton | 1st 2nd |
under 3 days under 3 days |
30-45 days 30-45 days |
5% 5% |
yes negotiable |
NA |
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One of the most active servicers in the area of proactive loss mitigation. Unfortunately, it has not translated to better, or significantly faster work on short sale files. Given the attitude of Litton management towards foreclosure avoidance programs, Litton is a servicer to watch going forward. The bet here is that before this cycle is over Litton will be one of the easier servicers to work with. Litton update. An example of Litton's attitude. Litton has said they were willing, as a senior lien holder, to allow as much as 10 cents on the dollar to junior lien holders. That was until they discovered most of the major servicers were more than willing to accept the 10 cents, but were not the least bit interested in reciprocating. The process seems to punish progressive thought at every turn. Nonetheless, hat's off to Litton for trying. |
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| National City | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
45-60 days 45-60 days |
5% 5% |
yes a battle |
NA |
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1sts - We don't run into a lot of National City 1sts. Those we have handled have gone well. I think that is because National City saves all their unpleasantness for those who ask for help on a 2nd. |
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| Ocwen | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
60+ days 60+ days |
5% 5% |
usually usually |
NA |
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1sts - Erratic. Policies shift quickly. For a time in 2008, Ocwen would not work on Short Sales on 1sts. After a couple months, they were back in. Now, however, Ocwen will not postpone sale dates to accomodate a Short Sale - even if it just about ready to close. |
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| Old Republic Mortage Insurance | 1st 2nd |
NA NA |
NA NA |
NA NA |
tough tough |
NA |
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Although not really a "lender" mortgage insurance (MI) companies like Old Republic may have a stake in the Short Sale at least on covered loans. We are talking, in most cases, about MI coverage that was purchased, or paid for, by the beneficiary (lender) - we are not talking about traditional borrower paid mortgage insurance. Old Republic generally demands 20% of the oustanding lien (usually it's the junior lien) from the borrower. On occasion, we have been able to satisfy Old Republic with an unsecured note. It gets difficult when the demand for recovery is on a purchase money obligation. Because, the borrower would likely have no obligation for the debt after the foreclosure, at least in CA. |
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| Option One | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
30 days 30 days |
5% 5% |
usually usually |
NA |
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Option one is a good example of a lender that has grown into the Short Sale process. In the early going, Option One was simply miserable to work with. Even now you will be dealing with a call center that seems to be based outside of the country, so the contacts can be challenging and not very productive. Once you get to a negotiator you will find a better experience. |
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| Radian Mortgage Insurance | 1st 2nd |
NA NA |
NA NA |
NA NA |
tough tough |
NA |
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Unreasonable is the only way to describe most demands made by mortgage insurance companies when their cooperation is being requested to get a Short Sale closed. We continue to have more than occasional success when we attack the challenge head-on. It is time consuming. Particularly in those cases where the debt in non-recourse, you can be successful when battling with MI companies, including Radian. Just make sure you start early and have a big cup of coffee. |
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| Saxon | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
45-60 days 45-60 days |
4% 4% |
usually negotiable |
NA |
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Saxon is a real bugger on the commission issue. Spend a ton of time fighting and they allow 5% sometimes, but it is a long fight. You can usually get through to your Saxon negotiator, and when you don't it actually pays to leave a message - they frequently return calls. Saxon update. Saxon seems intent on alienating as many real estate professional as they can. Not only do they fight till the cows come home to keep commissions on Short Sales to 4%, total. Now, their approval letters routinely include (in BOLD type so you can't miss it) the clause — ) Any EXTENSIONS WILL result in a 1% commission cut?. |
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| Specialized Loan Servicing | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
under 30 under 30 |
5% 5% |
negotiable negotiable |
NA |
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Specialized has been one of our favorites, making common sense decisions that maximize capital recovery --- until some new people and a new attitude. We are seeing foolish responses on purchase money 2nds where they face a total loss if the 1st forecloses, even with reasonable offers from senior lien holders. They claim that their recovery department can squeeze money out of somewhere after they are wiped out. Dare I ask where? The tooth fairy? Unnecessary foreclosures hurt everyone. Come on Specialized, you are better than that. |
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| Wachovia | 1st 2nd |
3 days or less 3 days or less |
30+/- days 30+/- days |
5% 5% |
usually usually |
NA |
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They move quickly in most cases. I believe part of reason for Wachovia's speed is their recognition of challenges in the real estate market. Everyone " talks " about it - the view from here is that Wachovia really gets it. Wachovia has used the localized approach for much of their REO portfolio, and we believe that has helped them better understand how tough things are at the street level. Speaking of tough, that is the best way to describe Wachovia on value issues. Don't send Wachovia a deal based on a wholesale price and expect a favorable outcome - and that is as it should be. Most times, when Wachovia responds to a file, the focus is on the 'net proceeds' number. So, look your deal over closely before you conclude that you have, or don't have, a deal. |
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| Washington Mutual | 1st 2nd |
5 days +/- 5 days +/- |
60+ days 60+ days |
3% to 5% 3% to 5% |
tough tough |
NA |
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Update - For the second time in the last few months it has been brought to us that WaMu has sold 2nd mortgage notes after a Short Sale has closed. In both cases (we fear there have been many others) the approval letters included provisions that said the seller was to contribute ZERO at closing, and no mention is made of WaMu reserving the right to pursue collection after close. We have reached out to WaMu management and suggested that what occurred was an "administrative error." They have been given a graceful way out - instead, WaMu has gone silent. In the meantime, collectors are going after the Short Sale sellers, non-stop. We will continue to appeal to WaMu management, and will keep you informed. |
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| Wells Fargo | 1st 2nd |
5 days or less 5 days or less |
60+ days 60+ days |
5% to 6% Watch your fee |
attainable a challenge |
NA |
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1sts - Slower than they should be. Beware of the common call center approach to Short Sale file processing. Messages are regularly inaccurately posted to the record, leaving you grasping for the proverbial straw when following up on file on which your last conversation was badly noted. Tip - recount your conversation and reconfirm they have a complete file before concluding your conversation with loss mitigation. Reasonable on commissions until.... |
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| Wilshire | 1st 2nd |
3-5 days 3-5 days |
45-60 days 45-60 days |
5% 5% |
problematic problematic |
NA |
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Seems to be firmly in the "this whole mess is the borrower's fault" camp. Frequently unwilling to give a borrower "full settlement" language, even on non-recourse debt. Pretty good about extending approval and postponing sale dates. |
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